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This is a follow-up on a thread I posted a while ago on broad and slender consonants (but I can't seem to find anymore). At the time Lughaidh advised me to “smile” when pronouncing a slender b and f, but that advice hasn't really helped much.
The letters I am still having trouble with are b, c, f, g and p.
slender c is roughly a ky-sound as in "cue".
Slender g is roughly a gy-sound... I can't find samples of that in English right now
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I'll just use the letter b as an example for now. When there is a broad or slender glide, there isn't any problem. There is an obvious difference between the b in buí and the b in beoir. But what about bán and bean? To me, the only difference between bán and bean is the vowel.
depends on your dialect, but in Ulster we'd say:
bán like bwaan (bwehn) (w glide, long a/ay/eh sound)
bean like "bann" (smiling, short a)
(listen to them here
http://www.forvo.com/user/Lughaidh/ )
in other dialects, I'd say:
bán like bawn with a long aw sound
bean like "bann" (just as in Ulster)
Maybe Bríd could record them on Forvo? The difference is very clear once you know
I've recorded the sounds here (click on the symbols):
http://annexedicoirlandais.free.fr/sons/sons.htmlthe broad consonants are normally followed by a small gamma (ɣ) in IPA and most of the slender ones are followed by a small j (just ask if you have a problem).
I've recorded words here
http://www.forvo.com/user/Lughaidh/ by pairs, whose only difference is the broad/slender consonant:
faoi/fí
peaca/paca
gall/geall
cúis/ciumhais...