Hello!!

Thanks in advance to anyone for their help!

I am trying to confirm correct translation for phrases used in my book and would prefer the older spelling if possible or the Munster pronunciation.

Tá fáilte romhat sa teach seo, mo dheartháir---- what I am going for here is basically, 'You are welcome in this house, my brother.' And the context is between two very old friends.

claíomh na gréine----trying for 'sword of the sun, or sunlight'

Ní thuigim déithe---what I want here is, 'I don't understand the gods', or even 'gods are not meant to be understood'

An bhfuil tú go hiomlán gan chiall, tá tú bean dÚsachtach
Dhraíocht--looking for 'Are you completely without sense, you crazy woman?" or 'Are you completely mad, insane, etc' The context is a woman doing something very frustrating or dangerous.

Heather

Tá fáilte/fáilthe romhat sa tigh seo, a dhriotháir.

Although "Driotháir" isn't really used for close friends, instead of a Dhriotháir you'd hear a charaid, or several other phrases.


Claíomh na Gréine does mean sword of the sun.


Ní thuigim na déithe.


An bhfuilir as do mheabhair, a óinsigh?

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The dialect I use is Cork Irish.
Ar sgáth a chéile a mhairid na daoine, lag agus láidir, uasal is íseal

Just a suggestion, I think the more traditional "Tá fáilte/ fáilthe romhat isteach" works well here for expressing what icymama is looking for, as "isteach" literally means into this house.



I definitely agree, brother is more of an Americanism not common in Ireland.

A charaid* , definitely works
A mhic or
a bhuachaill would work well too.

Funny enough a mhic means my son and is a greeting used among friends. It wouldn't be million miles removed from my brother as an expression of friendship.

A bhuachaill , literally means boy/ youngfella, this one has kind of manifested itself in Hiberno-English as "kid" or "lad" (used in a similar way to "brother" in American-English) i.e. "Alright kid?/ What's the story kid/ lad" how are you; or "go on the Kid" Well done

*A Loin Dhuibh, cinnte gur phléamair é seo chéana thá fhios agam, ach a' ndeirtear "a charaid" i nGaeltacht Chorcaí chón maith? Thá fhios agam go doimhin go ndeirtear "a charaid" insa Rinn go traidisiúnta agus i gCiarraidhe.



But if you want it in the older spelling (pre-spelling reform) it would be:

Claidheamh or Claoidheamh na Gréine

Depending on sub-dialectal differences in pronunciation within the greater Munster dialect. Oddly, Claidheamh would be the more standardised older Irish spelling of the word sword. Even though Claoidheamh (claíomh) is the more wide-ranging pronunciation across all dialects. This is due to historical reasons as the actual old Irish spelling is "Claideb".









Cian

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How about:
Tá fáilte (or fáilthe) romhat isteach sa tigh seo.

, sounds good!

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I don't know if this is universal, but I usually hear "a mhac" when "mac" is used as "friend/buddy/etc." and "a mhic" when someone is addressing his or her actual son.

Redwolf

A mhac I believe is common in Conamara for both expressions (so I have heard).

A mhic is used for both in Munster (so I have heard)

Not sure about Ulster, maybe its differentiated as you were saying

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You can also say something like "Tá fáilte romhat inár dtigh-ne/im' thigh-se"


Deirtear, ach níl sé chomh coitianta agus atá sé i gCiarraidhe agus sna Déise. Má's buan mo chuimhne, do chonac i "An Baile" é (aistriú ón bhFraincís 'sea é, "La Maison" an teideal bunaidh, Henri Bordeaux an t-údar.)
Is annamh a chloisfeá an ginideach iolra "Carad" anois.


I was just thinking, if you really wanted to emphasise this you could say:

An bhfuilir glan scuabtha as do mheabhair?

Regarding the mac/mic thing, I've heard both, but I've never really seen a pattern to them, except it's always "A mhic ó".

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The dialect I use is Cork Irish.
Ar sgáth a chéile a mhairid na daoine, lag agus láidir, uasal is íseal

I heard it explained like Redwolf said, but really I haven't noticed the difference. But I can't be sure of that. Personally I say "a mhac". I don't have a son to say "a mhic" to anyhow

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It is recommended that you always wait for three to agree on a translation.
I speak Connemara Irish, and my input will often reflect that.
I will do an mp3 file on request for short translations.
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